Weeb Trash said 9 years, 2 months ago:

I have yet to see a Men’s Rights Activist protesting rape support groups. And America is *not* a “rape culture”. Sudan is a “rape culture” I’m probably the least patriotic person on Earth, but every time I hear someone describe America as a “rape culture”, I want to personally book them a flight to Africa or Saudi Arabia so they can experience a real “rape culture”. Also, you have yet to attack my argument itself, you just use the “they probably apply to white women only” to try and discredit my argument. Nice logical fallacy mate. Now, as for my statement that Feminism is no longer needed in America, this is why I think this. There’s no more civil rights movement for black people. Why? They won their rights. While their population still has problems that need to be dealt with, they no longer need to protest in the streets to be heard. They have the NAACP and other advocacy groups, and that gets the job done. Women have Feminism, but Feminism, over the years, went from a peaceful movement (like the black civil rights movement) to a shitstorm waiting to happen. Now, women (like black people) still have issues, and will always have issues come up, but America doesn’t need what Feminism is today. We have enough bullshit to deal with. Now, before you use “male privilege” against me…

rinseandrep said 9 years, 2 months ago:

I don’t think you get to define what rape culture is, and please don’t dismiss victims of rape in your country with your Sudan argument. There’s no “they get raped more” argument to be had.

I don’t need to prove you wrong in detail to dismiss your claim that feminism in your country isn’t needed because everything is solved (there’s actual women who can do it better than me). It’s clear that you aren’t willing/able to see problems that affect women, you only see what affects yourself, and on top of that you refuse to see how feminism works to address how the gender gap also affects you as a male, starting with women fighting to get to become soldiers and other “guy jobs” that populate your chart with the too little writings at the bottom, or how sharing equally responsibilities in a relationship could help men feel like it’s ok to not kill themselves if they fail.

Women didn’t win they rights, there’s still gay women, trans women and female members of minorities fighting for their intersectional rights (I keep repeating this and you keep missing this). Straight white women themselves are still addressing the wage gap. It’s not over because their problems don’t affect you.

I don’t understand why the civil rights movements would be dead, given how active it has been in the last years to address institutionalized racism in the police and judicial system.

@missfortune I felt the same way, although it’s starting to feel like opting out would have been a good choice, since it doesn’t really matter how much we argue about it. Unless someone learns something.

The Giggle Blizzard said 9 years, 2 months ago:

@rinseandrep I’m finding this discusison very educational cause I have only recently started thinking about this kinda stuff – partially cause I’m a pretty young guy but also cause I live in a remote place in Sweden. Also I just wanna say that my earlier comment was not bashing the feministic movement if that’s what it seemed like, I’m all for it. I’m just hesitant to get into the discussion because I don’t know enough about it to defend my case, so I appreciate your sensible comments. You’re very objective and has the right approach in my opinion and I agree with what you say even though most of it is just facts and you can’t really disagree with facts.

rinseandrep said 9 years, 2 months ago:

I think a good start would be, because you probably were not raped or victimized by rape culture, not where you live, nor in Sudan.

I don’t know why you feel like micromanaging what lgbt/women group should address what, what culture is the true rape one, etc. We both are white guys from what I understand, shouldn’t we just be ok with whatever actual gay people and women prefer?

When I’ll see you recognize a woman’s problem as something other than a chance to say “men have it worse”, “not all men do that” or a chance to chip away at feminism, I’ll apologize.

I’m not your mate, bro or whatever, please don’t call me that, we are not close, and when it’s associated with latent anger it creeps me out.

@giggleblizzard That’s ok, I was thinking about when I composed my first message in this thread, so I really wasn’t thinking of you.

✧Sumer✧ said 9 years, 2 months ago:

I believe you all need to go read up on feminism, equality, actual male privilege, and then come back to this post. You’re not describing feminist. And as for the girl saying she’s not a feminist, you sound uneducated. Just because there are people who make it ‘bad’, doesn’t mean every representation of them is horrible. I know multiple male, trans-gender, cis-female, straight people, gay people, and everything in between that’re feminists. It’s human rights and equality, if you’re letting other people ruin it for you, you’re no better than them. Educate yourself, dollfaces.

Deleted User said 9 years, 2 months ago:

What I don’t like about current feminist is there not about equality for both men and women only for “women” for example they don’t think a man should ever put his hands on a women even if he is defending himself yes no one should put there hands on no-one but if a women slaps me in any way I’m slapping her ass back end of story in a feminist mind

“If a woman slaps a man or hits him he has no right to hit her back or to defend himself he just has to stay there and let this woman abuse him”

So basically what there saying is a women has a right to beat the shit outta a man and “it’s okay” because she is small and innocent” but if a man puts ands on a women he is a disgusting pig who should be in jail for life?….even if he was defending himself?

A girl in high school once punched me in the arm because I guess she was just a bitch so I pushed her ass “it’s called self defense” wanna know what happened 2 of her friends called me a women abusive piece of shit…..the teacher said “don’t ever put your hands on a women”……I’m like excuse me she punched my arm I defended myself I was labeled the bad guy after that I realized that women have “these special treatments and shit my mind hasn’t changed since then

I WILL NEVER HIT A WOMAN OR MAN BECAUSE IM NO ABUSIVE BULLY BUT IF A MAN OR A WOMAN PUTS THERE HANDS ON ME THEY BETTER EXPECT A PUNCH OR SLAP OR PUSH IN RETURN I DON’T GIVE A DAME IF ITS A FEMALE

lxj1976 said 9 years, 2 months ago:

this article is so arrogant and funny… i’ve never read something like that! at first, it should be interesting to count the number of vulgar words used each sentence. secondly, you definitely all of you don’t know anything about feminism (check wikipedia before talking, thank you^^). and whether i didn’t read all of the comments but i can easily guess (without any arrogance from me) what you would say, i invite all of you to learn RESPECT and EQUALITY!

no need to answer anything to what i have written, i am not interested by all your pretended wisdom or culture…

but one thing all of you. if women are as they are today, maybe you should thank yourselves because it’s all your fault!

@sumertime-sadness thank you so much for your so true words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a woman proud to be lesbian and to hate males

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lxj1976 said 9 years, 2 months ago:

@silent-radiance in despite of what i have said, i took the time to read your reply…. first, it’s definitely arrogant from you to say what you say. secondly, you don’t know what i have lived. thirdly, i consider your words very ridiculous because you judge me without knowing me. in a few words as a thousand, before trying to teach me a lesson, apply it with yourself at first!

(end of the topic for me)