Peanutter said 5 years, 4 months ago:

I’m 15 and a sophomore in high school and I have been really thinking about this for a while. I feel that grades don’t resemble a person’s actual intellect and ability. As there are many geniuses throughout history who have failed tests and some even dropped out of high school.

In fact, isn’t school and college in general just pure memorization? Most of the subjects I study for ends up being discarded in my mind at the end of the year. The only ones that I remember are the subjects that interest me.

Also aren’t there different types of smarts? For example, someone may not be able to do chemistry yet be an excellent programmer. Or be horrid at Trigonometry, but is the greatest, “Relationship Guru,” on the planet?

What do you guys think about this?

Deleted User said 5 years, 4 months ago:

Well..its true.All the people say Im pretty intelligent.. My friends and my teachers say that too.Nevertheless, I failed twice in maths this year..School is pure memorization abd application of it.College is somewhat more practical.Its too bad to compare intelligence with grades or vice versa. grades just pressurize students..Intellect is the ability to react to different situations, thats what K feel is intelligence.. grades are just a shadow on them

OpenTalk said 5 years, 4 months ago:

Yes and no? The thing I don’t think a lot of high school students understand is that what you’re learning, though not always useful in the real world, is supposed to develop your complex problem solving abilities and your context of the real world.

Life has a lot of complex problems. How will you drive your car out of an ice patch? Where do you not want to go on vacation due to political turbulence? How much in taxes will you have to contribute based on your earnings that year? Should you buy a house with your credit rating?

Whether you think so or not, high school, college, and university help turn you into someone who can actually handle life. It isn’t about memorizing and theorizing. It’s about becoming a well-rounded, thoughtful member of society.

Adam Karlson said 5 years, 4 months ago:

It’s Uni directional… If one’s intelligent, his grades would be reasonable… But a person with good grades might just be the dumbest person ever.
Best idea is to talk to them and judge their level relative to you…
But still one cannot judge a person in a single meeting… So judging in a single meeting and grades are the same thing…. I.e. Idiotic

Nazgul said 5 years, 4 months ago:

The thing is, “intelligence” is something that can truly never be measured. We all know that resourceful friend who has the solution to every problem, yet at the same time that friend (at least mine) fails at maths. Some people tend to understand science much better than others, while others are able to under human nature. In my case, I get good grades mainly because of my memory and guessing ability. This guessing ability is called “Tukka” in my native Urdu, and this is probably a branch of intelligence which allows me to successfully guess my way through entire tests, and this is probably why I am not so good at Maths as most of the time I am trying to *figure* out the formulas rather than *remembering* them. All in all, everyone perhaps excels in a different branches of intelligence. A engineer would not be better at a presentation than a con artist, and a con artist would not be better than the engineer in maths. I think college might the closest we can get to determining a person’s intelligence, although it *is* true that ‘intelligent’ people can have a tendency to get good grades by exploiting the places they excel at, and ‘intelligent’ people in the traditional sense might be forgetful, but they are able to ‘focus’ better at information.

Peanutter said 5 years, 4 months ago:

@OpenTalk
Does this mean cheating without being noticed is also an example of complex problem solving?

http://i.imgur.com/NTMybwj.jpg?1

OpenTalk said 5 years, 4 months ago:

Well, that’s one way of problem solving but it would also highlight a question of morality. The school system is intended to develop minds that would rather earnestly take examinations than copy others.

✧Sumer✧ said 5 years, 4 months ago:

Absolutely not. I have to preach this to my girlfriend constantly. I had some classes last year that I had over 102% all year because the teacher liked me. We also have some teachers that fail some kids because they don’t like them. Some kids cant remember everything that is being forced into their brains at once. Grades are merely based upon their ability to concentrate and memorize things, whether the way they’re being taught is their way of understanding material (visual, hands on, etc.)

Kids don’t even get taught properly most of the time. Theyre given work and expected to understand it the first time I was stated, and go for it. The way some teacher teach is ridiculous. The world is not black and white.

School completely needs to be reevaluated, honestly. The way they teach now is not what we need. The world is more advanced now, and the complexity and diversity in the 10-30 kids in those classes are way greater than it used to be.

School is designed now for test taking, and not necessarily learning the material.

Peanutter said 5 years, 4 months ago:

@OpenTalk

I mean I have seen some very sly stuff that I couldn’t have come up myself. For example, my friend told me a story that he cheated by writing notes on the inside wrapper of his water bottle. Another story was that a girl had answers to an upcoming multiple choice test. So she made a necklace of 4-colored beads, A=red, B=blue and so on. That takes creativity and ingenuity.

I don’t believe it’s immoral to cheat on high school tests, and I would even say some college exams. I’m pretty sure if a student was never interested in doing logarithmic functions, chemical equations, etc. I don’t think he/she will suddenly want to go into a field where it requires you to do that. That’s the problem with the education system (in America), they force you to take subjects you’re not interested in, that are irrelevant. What do you hear when people say what job you should have? Do something that interests you and makes you happy.

LoVeMusiC35 said 5 years, 4 months ago:

Grades dont reflect intelligence,they just reflect how much effort you put and how good your memory is.
For me,intelligence is exploring,having an open mind,an objective opinion,understand things that others don’t.That is intelligence to me.

Allysa said 5 years, 3 months ago:

Albert Einstien once said “Everybody is a genius but if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will spend its whole life feeling stupid.” I do pretty good in school because I memorize things easily but all that’s ever done is make my parents raise their expectations, some occasional cash from my grandpa, and most of the class wanting to use my worksheet when I get done with it.

littlemouse said 5 years, 3 months ago:

Doing well at school shows that you can put effort into rote learning and be organised/committed enough to make time for study.
Thats all, hardly anything you learn in school has any practical application in real life apart from learning to say what the assessor wants to here and being organised.

Catie said 5 years, 2 months ago:

I don’t think grades really determine how smart you are. There’s a bunch of different ways to be “smart”. Also, some of the smartest people did bad in school.

MemyselfandI said 5 years, 1 month ago:

Personally, i think grades are a necessary identification of intelligence as the government, and a business is concerned. A lot of smart people learn just to not care, because if it’s easy to get good grades, then why try. Other smart people grasp certain things instantly, and other things completely elude them. intelligentsia includes innumerable different modes of prowess, but as a general rule, if a person has some remarkable quality, they are intelligent, if not, that’s fine, we just need to work a little harder. In the end, what your gpa is won’t matter too much, it’s rarely even looked at. What’s important is that you try to learn things, or at least learn how to learn things, in school.

Weeb Trash said 5 years, 1 month ago:

Grades do not equal intelligence. I nearly flunked out of high school, but I have an IQ of 179, and I’m probably the only person with a genius IQ I went to high school with. Go figure.