We should never joke about harming or doing bad things to each other @rinseandrep, the world needs love, compassion and kindness in such hard times, everyone should reject hatred, bigotry and discrimination of any kind, we need to come together to support each other, I’m always here for you (hugs)
Okay, then you, your friends, and Bill Clinton, too, anyone into non consensual groping and defending people who do it. I don’t talk like that with my friends, fuck anyone who pushes that on me, and reinforces rape culture.
@rinseandrep sadly some guys are so insecure they can’t take a ”no” for an answer and have the need to harass girls. Quite sad. However girls do it to in all honesty. But I support what you said, sadly I’ve experienced and I can say is extremly scary.
@cyrax so anxious to prove your point you’re the one looking dumb. He didn’t say ALL GUYS, he’s critizing people who defend boys/men’s action to harass an innocent young woman. She didn’t ask for it, so you shouldn’t do it. He’s saying that the excuse of ”boys talk” is bullshit, because an actual real men does not have the need to sexually harass a woman. He can take a no like a decent human being. So your argument does not make sense because he didn’t call anyone a rapist , he just disagrees with the bullshit excuses people give. And I have guy friends who support what I’m saying. Is not boy’s talk. Is coward talk. And btw hum as a language student…sweetie don’t use a dictionary definition when you can’t even properly interpretate what this guy said in first place. You missed the whole point lol. You’re even missing RAPE with SEXUAL HARASSMENT , and the guy was genuinly talking about the bullshit excuse that people give to excuse men of their behavior. He didn’t say both of these concepts were the same and he didn’t say not all men were the same. Learn to read people’s post before you post 5 answers without any logical sense.
Nvm.. I thought I was having an actual decent conversation about women’s rights and I realise this still IS about politcs. People stop. We get it. Trump was elected. Some of you aren’t happy but for god’s sake don’t mix two things like this. Like wtf. Are you going to talk about this the next 4 years?
@marikofujimoto Yeah but in this case there isn’t even a chance to say yes or no, just an asshole pushing himself on people, and gloating about it to other guys looking for their genuine, or cowardly, approval and reassurance that he can do it without real consequences, like abusers/predators regularly do. That’s what I wanted to say to Oli too, it’s not a matter of jokes here, predators are serious, and test their social group to know if they are going to be on their side after raping/assaulting their targets. Their defenders will then bring out the ’just joking’, or ’locker room talk’, or ’she’s lying’, to minimize the abusers’ behaviors/words, but it’s our responsibility as men, or people, to call out sexual predators among us for what they are, and deny them our complicity.
We all have to treat each other with respect, love and kindness in words and action @rinseandrep, @marikofujimoto and @cyrax, nothing is funny about harming each other or doing bad things to one another, in this toxic atmosphere, what is needed is compassion and hope, spread brightness as much as you can, nothing good will come of turning against each other (gives you all hugs) <3
Quoting Oli, //We all have to treat each other with respect, love and kindness in words and action // Yupe! I completely agree (sincerely and seriously), we all have to treat each other, Including President-Elect Donald Trump, Miss Clinton, all the rapists, sexual harassers and basically everyone, with respect, love and kindness in words and action. Don’t you all agree?
The world needs love @sigmasuccour, I wish we could remove all the bad things from the world and replace it with compassion, empathy and hope, I just want the best for people, I honestly do, I’m going to remove myself from this discussion because I don’t want to upset anyone or start an argument, I’m sorry, but I’ll give you a smile and hug (hugs)
@rinseandrep as someone who has been through it, in all honesty, you can’t do much… the system isn’t made for victims, is made for who’s laywer wins or who has a better reputation. The guy who sexually hassaulted me is studying in a private university and his daddy came to me offering me money so I would shut up. I didn’t shut up, however nothing was solved. When things like this happens it just….happens. I agree with you some people are just naturally fucking creepy, gropping all the time, hitting on women, but even I as someone who was sexually hassaulted, can say that some men are wonderfull. My current boyfriend is an amazing men who when he found out what happened he was going to ”kill” the guy. Good guys hate those rappist and sexual predotors. Idk if I’m making sense, all I wanted to say is: there should be a better system, more support to the victims (for men and women), not giving excuses to those evil people and we shouldn’t judge every guy for the same
@cyrax because gropping can lead to rape. Obviously deppends on the situation, but I can tell you is beyond terrifying experience someone basically drool and grope you and whisper you the most disgusting things ever. And if you tell someone you’ll hear the ”what were you wearing?” or ”lol you were asking for it”, same with rape. This is the reality. Now, like I said to the post that made this post, are all men like this? Absolutly not. I have wonderfull guy friends and a very sweet boyfriend who HATE guys who harass other women. We have to be fair. In another note I also believe this person was trying to express their frustration in the system. You see the system is made not for the victims. A good lawyer can fuck a woman’s life. And then she has to go through therapy, sleeping pills, anxiety pills, etc. Only because a lawyer , a judge and the boy’s daddy had money. And this is just an example. If something bad happens even if you report it, nothing happens. I went to the police to complain about a situation and you know what the cop said? ”sorry darling unless you have bruises we can’t do anything” and I HAD texts and voicemails proving the harassment and the preview stuff that happened, I even recorded his voice when he proceeded with the situation. So basically I had to go to the guy, get beatened up, and even then I wouldn’t know if I would get justice. In summary: 1)the system is fucked up nowdays, is really sad, really scary, and as a woman I feel unsafe. 2)this ALSO happens to men, and this goes more to the person who made this post, I’ve seen girls doing this shit aswell. 3)not men are all rappist and crazy. Some have kind hearts.
p.s- about the comment I saw about your friend… I hope karma hits you… your friend was RAPED, had a penis inside her against her will and because she realises the system is beyond shit and she knows the guy will smirk at her in court and she’ll probably lose, you blame her? Do you know what is like to be raped? Have some sensitivity. I feel sorry for your friend, I hope she recovers (which will never fully happen). But I hope she gets some help. If you’re a real friend you won’t force her to talk, you’ll help her as much as you can so she can get through it. Be a good friend.
@sigmasuccour maybe I’m quite stupid but did you just ”we all have to treat each other, Including President-Elect Donald Trump, Miss Clinton, all the rapists, sexual harassers and basically everyone, with respect, love and kindness in words and action.” ? Did you said we have to respect all rapists and sexual harassers equally as some political? dude go ahead with your politcs, done talking about it, but… what? My brain actually kinda died. Either I’m reading this really wrong, or idk. I thought you were sending a sweet message and I was going to support it bt I can’t support someone who says we have to respect rappist and sexual harassers. and like oli I’m geting the fuck off this conversation cause its giving me cancer.
@marikofujimoto ”if we could read the secret history of our enemies, we should find in each man’s life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.” ~ Henry Wadsworth Longfellow . A video for you Miss Mariko.
@marikofujimoto Oh, sorry to hear that @everbybodyelse Compassion is for victims to choose, privately or by reaching or not. Compassion doesn’t curb rapists and predators and assailants looking for the social approval they need. Standing out against their behaviors helps. Standing up against their words helps. Disapproval of sexual assault behaviors helps. Compassion not for the predator but for their victims helps. Saying ’I’m a guy and I don’t talk like that with my male friends helps’ instead of ”all guys do that helps”. If you want to exercise compassion after you took all these steps, go for it. If that’s the first thing you run to, you might be part of the problem.
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We should never joke about harming or doing bad things to each other @rinseandrep, the world needs love, compassion and kindness in such hard times, everyone should reject hatred, bigotry and discrimination of any kind, we need to come together to support each other, I’m always here for you
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Okay, then you, your friends, and Bill Clinton, too, anyone into non consensual groping and defending people who do it. I don’t talk like that with my friends, fuck anyone who pushes that on me, and reinforces rape culture.
@rinseandrep sadly some guys are so insecure they can’t take a ”no” for an answer and have the need to harass girls. Quite sad. However girls do it to in all honesty. But I support what you said, sadly I’ve experienced and I can say is extremly scary.
@cyrax so anxious to prove your point you’re the one looking dumb. He didn’t say ALL GUYS, he’s critizing people who defend boys/men’s action to harass an innocent young woman. She didn’t ask for it, so you shouldn’t do it. He’s saying that the excuse of ”boys talk” is bullshit, because an actual real men does not have the need to sexually harass a woman. He can take a no like a decent human being. So your argument does not make sense because he didn’t call anyone a rapist , he just disagrees with the bullshit excuses people give. And I have guy friends who support what I’m saying. Is not boy’s talk. Is coward talk. And btw hum as a language student…sweetie don’t use a dictionary definition when you can’t even properly interpretate what this guy said in first place. You missed the whole point lol. You’re even missing RAPE with SEXUAL HARASSMENT , and the guy was genuinly talking about the bullshit excuse that people give to excuse men of their behavior. He didn’t say both of these concepts were the same and he didn’t say not all men were the same. Learn to read people’s post before you post 5 answers without any logical sense.
Nvm.. I thought I was having an actual decent conversation about women’s rights and I realise this still IS about politcs. People stop. We get it. Trump was elected. Some of you aren’t happy but for god’s sake don’t mix two things like this. Like wtf. Are you going to talk about this the next 4 years?
@marikofujimoto Yeah but in this case there isn’t even a chance to say yes or no, just an asshole pushing himself on people, and gloating about it to other guys looking for their genuine, or cowardly, approval and reassurance that he can do it without real consequences, like abusers/predators regularly do. That’s what I wanted to say to Oli too, it’s not a matter of jokes here, predators are serious, and test their social group to know if they are going to be on their side after raping/assaulting their targets. Their defenders will then bring out the ’just joking’, or ’locker room talk’, or ’she’s lying’, to minimize the abusers’ behaviors/words, but it’s our responsibility as men, or people, to call out sexual predators among us for what they are, and deny them our complicity.
We all have to treat each other with respect, love and kindness in words and action @rinseandrep, @marikofujimoto and @cyrax, nothing is funny about harming each other or doing bad things to one another, in this toxic atmosphere, what is needed is compassion and hope, spread brightness as much as you can, nothing good will come of turning against each other (gives you all hugs)
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Quoting Oli,
//We all have to treat each other with respect, love and kindness in words and action //
Yupe! I completely agree (sincerely and seriously), we all have to treat each other, Including President-Elect Donald Trump, Miss Clinton, all the rapists, sexual harassers and basically everyone, with respect, love and kindness in words and action. Don’t you all agree?
The world needs love @sigmasuccour, I wish we could remove all the bad things from the world and replace it with compassion, empathy and hope, I just want the best for people, I honestly do, I’m going to remove myself from this discussion because I don’t want to upset anyone or start an argument, I’m sorry, but I’ll give you a smile and hug
(hugs)
@rinseandrep as someone who has been through it, in all honesty, you can’t do much… the system isn’t made for victims, is made for who’s laywer wins or who has a better reputation. The guy who sexually hassaulted me is studying in a private university and his daddy came to me offering me money so I would shut up. I didn’t shut up, however nothing was solved. When things like this happens it just….happens. I agree with you some people are just naturally fucking creepy, gropping all the time, hitting on women, but even I as someone who was sexually hassaulted, can say that some men are wonderfull. My current boyfriend is an amazing men who when he found out what happened he was going to ”kill” the guy. Good guys hate those rappist and sexual predotors. Idk if I’m making sense, all I wanted to say is: there should be a better system, more support to the victims (for men and women), not giving excuses to those evil people and we shouldn’t judge every guy for the same
@cyrax because gropping can lead to rape. Obviously deppends on the situation, but I can tell you is beyond terrifying experience someone basically drool and grope you and whisper you the most disgusting things ever. And if you tell someone you’ll hear the ”what were you wearing?” or ”lol you were asking for it”, same with rape. This is the reality. Now, like I said to the post that made this post, are all men like this? Absolutly not. I have wonderfull guy friends and a very sweet boyfriend who HATE guys who harass other women. We have to be fair.
In another note I also believe this person was trying to express their frustration in the system. You see the system is made not for the victims. A good lawyer can fuck a woman’s life. And then she has to go through therapy, sleeping pills, anxiety pills, etc. Only because a lawyer , a judge and the boy’s daddy had money. And this is just an example. If something bad happens even if you report it, nothing happens.
I went to the police to complain about a situation and you know what the cop said? ”sorry darling unless you have bruises we can’t do anything” and I HAD texts and voicemails proving the harassment and the preview stuff that happened, I even recorded his voice when he proceeded with the situation. So basically I had to go to the guy, get beatened up, and even then I wouldn’t know if I would get justice.
In summary: 1)the system is fucked up nowdays, is really sad, really scary, and as a woman I feel unsafe. 2)this ALSO happens to men, and this goes more to the person who made this post, I’ve seen girls doing this shit aswell. 3)not men are all rappist and crazy. Some have kind hearts.
p.s- about the comment I saw about your friend… I hope karma hits you… your friend was RAPED, had a penis inside her against her will and because she realises the system is beyond shit and she knows the guy will smirk at her in court and she’ll probably lose, you blame her? Do you know what is like to be raped? Have some sensitivity. I feel sorry for your friend, I hope she recovers (which will never fully happen). But I hope she gets some help. If you’re a real friend you won’t force her to talk, you’ll help her as much as you can so she can get through it. Be a good friend.
@sigmasuccour maybe I’m quite stupid but did you just ”we all have to treat each other, Including President-Elect Donald Trump, Miss Clinton, all the rapists, sexual harassers and basically everyone, with respect, love and kindness in words and action.” ? Did you said we have to respect all rapists and sexual harassers equally as some political? dude go ahead with your politcs, done talking about it, but… what? My brain actually kinda died. Either I’m reading this really wrong, or idk. I thought you were sending a sweet message and I was going to support it bt I can’t support someone who says we have to respect rappist and sexual harassers. and like oli I’m geting the fuck off this conversation cause its giving me cancer.
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”if we could read the secret history of our enemies, we should find in each man’s life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.” ~ Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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A video for you Miss Mariko.
@marikofujimoto Oh, sorry to hear that
@everbybodyelse Compassion is for victims to choose, privately or by reaching or not. Compassion doesn’t curb rapists and predators and assailants looking for the social approval they need. Standing out against their behaviors helps. Standing up against their words helps. Disapproval of sexual assault behaviors helps. Compassion not for the predator but for their victims helps. Saying ’I’m a guy and I don’t talk like that with my male friends helps’ instead of ”all guys do that helps”. If you want to exercise compassion after you took all these steps, go for it. If that’s the first thing you run to, you might be part of the problem.